Kara5465's Canditions

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: November 9, 2019

"Dry and anchors are fine. Roads are as good as can be expected."

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 12, 2019

Englestead - bone dry

Orderville - knee deep

No wetsuits needed

3 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 8, 2019

Didnt bring wetsuits and wouldnt have worn it if I brought it. But it was hotter than hell. The hoodoo you go to to avoid Russell and go into the Subway is obvious, but what is less obvious is staying left on the social trails is the only way to get to it. After you do the down-climb back to the wash that leads to the left fork area, if you find a blue sling as webbing for a 100ish foot rap, you don't have to go this way. You can, but a 200 ft rope wont touch the ground, and you'll have to change stations on a tree about 30 feet off the ground. If youd rather save the time, back up a bit and theres a down-climb canyon left that looks very easy. We had fun on the extra rap though!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 14, 2018

The approach is the same for uturn/teardrop/etc. as you probably know. For someone's first canyon, this part, as well as some pretty exposed hiking near the end, may make them a bit nervous, but an easy canyon otherwise.

To get to the first rap, we climbed up the cheese wall for no reason. you can definitely just continue forward after the crack climb and walk over to the first rap.

For the first rap, with a 200ft rope, the last person will barely get to where you can stand using a double-strand. But it isn't very steep and you can just slide down to the sandy area at the bottom. But make sure you really even the rope out as much as possible before descending. For the rap after that, you can rap off the tree which has webbing left on it, or there's a bolt over to the right. Took us about 4 hours but we were really taking our time. With beginners, expect to take that or longer.

this run is a good one if the other canyons are wet and you want to avoid water.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 22, 2018

Bone dry except one barely wet pothole you can avoid. Even the last repel you can avoid getting wet if you swing. Took maybe 5-6 hours for JUST the canyon, not including the hike from the cars, but we took our time looking around. Webbing was in good condition. The last keeper pothole is full of sand. Saw a tarantula and a bunch of frogs. Beautifully diverse canyon. Last repel was "the most beautiful repel ive ever done" according to our group of 5. Highly recommend hiking up to the beginning. You can also shorten it to do just two repels or even just one. Group ahead of us actually finished and went back in to do the last one again. Backpacking in the night before is the way to do it. I cant imagine how tired wed be hiking in, doing the whole canyon and hiking out! Way out is brutaly steep. The navigation is not obvious either direction. I drank 2L on the way in in the dark, 3 during the canyon, and 3 on the way out.