Jsb4g's Canditions

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 19, 2020

One shin deep wade. Dry otherwise. 85 foot rap at the end had solid webbing around a boulder. I downclimbed everything else, but some in our party had to rap a couple of times using me as meat. Be aware that not every drop has anchors, and not every downclimb is simple. Exit after the 85 foot drop is class 4+ near the top/rim. Those that aren't climbers may want to be belayed or assisted with a handline.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 18, 2020

East and west fork are both dry. Downclimbed everything in the East Fork. For the west fork, we dropped in off of a tree RDC and picked up rope on the way out. We could see red webbing around a bush on the LDC side. I would not rap off of a bush that small. After we rapped in, we used a sand trap for the next rappel since there was no anchor. For the third rappel, there are two deadman anchors. Both are in poor condition. However, we backed them up with meat attached to the rapid links (2- one for each anchor) until the last person down (me). They held. It is a short rappel that could almost be downclimbed, so I did not rely on anchor completely.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 17, 2020

Poison springs was insanely crowded. Fortunately, we arrived late and the last group ahead of us was just finishing the rap into Arscenic when we arrived. Canyon was dry. Downclimb to the canyon prior to the first rap was not obvious. We used a sandy hill LDC- not sure if that was correct. Anchor webbing for the rap was in good shape. Arch on the exit was a cool and unexpected feature.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 16, 2020

Same as below. Two spots have water. One is knee deep. The other is the last rappel. it is shin deep.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 5, 2020

Dry and no mud. Anchors are solid. 3 people, 2 hours, leisurely pace.

2 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 27, 2020

Multiple wades, some avoidable. One swimmer. I stemmed over it. The wade after the swimmer is belly deep.. Water is chilly but I made it without a wetsuit. Water smells really bad... like gagging bad. Amazing amounts of sand in the canyon. Anchors were mostly in good shape. The oddly rigged webbing on rap 6 in the water course attached to the chokstone should be replaced if you are using it instead of the tree to the left. I am not sure how much longer it will last. The tree rap station to the left was in better shape. Bolt placements are awkward on a couple of raps. I understand preventing rope grooves, but there are ways to place bolts that minimize grooves and don't risk human life. If people would just learn to use a fiddlestick...sigh. The approach hike was the best part of this canyon. Glad Zion has reopened canyon permitting.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 23, 2020

Flowing just right to get good and wet. We wore 4/3 wetsuits and were not cold. I wouldn't do it right now without wetsuits due to volume of water. Air temp was upper 70ies to low 80ies. I've done two different routes on the approach: the Road Trip Ryan approach, which requires bushwacking and class 3 scrambling, and the trail approach that goes further south and up and around the cliffs. The latter approach is longer, more defined trail, no scrambling, but overall more of an ascent.

3 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 16, 2020

We did the East Fork as part of a backpacking trip. With the exception of a thigh deep pool at the beginning, the East Fork is entirely dry. Water (cold) is not encountered until just before the double arch cathedral after the confluence with the west fork. Same water height (max chest deep) as it was last October 2019 when I did the west fork. Could do it w/o wetsuit in summer heat, but would be chilly for a few minutes. My opinion on East vs West: If you are doing a day trip from Checkerboard Mesa, then the East fork gives you very little extra bang for your buck given the additional 3 miles or so of hiking required. If you are only doing one fork as a day hike, the West Fork is the better option because it has more rappels, almost as much slot length, and will give you more time to relax in the Barracks before the long hike out.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 19, 2020

7 people, 2.5 hours. Almost no water. Pothole only has about 2 feet of water in it as of May 19 and it can be avoided using steps to the left. Can you locate the USFS camera on the exit?

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 14, 2020

Water still flowing in most spots, barely. Where it is flowing, it has slowed to a trickle in all but a few places in the technical portion prior to rejoining the trail where the additional springs are. We were comfortable in wetsuits (full 4/3). Canyon is a lot more fun this time around for me than last when it was mostly dry in the fall. Took 8.5 hours or so with five people at casual pace. I recall there being a couple of floating disconnects.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 5, 2020

Great canyon. No water until the spring under the last rappel. WARNING: The webbing for the last rappel is now slung around a chockstone requiring an R or X rated stem out over the edge with nothing between it and the spring 50 feet below. Very difficult to inspect. (See sketchyancor's review below). Used top belay to set up & attached a carabiner w/ cord to the rap line for easy retrieval for each person in group. Another option is to rig a new anchor using a chockstone up canyon just before the end of the previous rap- could possibly use a fiddlestick from that location, but I did not evaluate it carefully. On climb out, look for Cairns 2/3 of the way up and traverse right around an arete, per beta elsewhere. Otherwise the top section of the gully becomes class 5ish. We took the class 5ish option and noted fairly new webbing w/ rapide strung around a boulder near the top...perhaps someone was not as successful as we were in that last section and needed a rescue?

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 4, 2020

We did not complete the canyon. However, want to share the following. We encountered the first rap, which is a 132 foot rappel off a Deadman. It had the core of a rope sticking out of the rapide and I did not like the angle of the sandstone where the Deadman was buried. Very small area with a ton of exposure. We opted to climb around the first rap following the directions from a well known website that said it was left of the rap LDC. Well, that was wrong. The down climb is right of the first rap LDC. By the time we figured it out, it was too late in the day to descend.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 4, 2020

Fun short canyon. Trailhead parking is closed until June 15 for construction, but we parked on the side of the road near the exit. One pothole with water that can be avoided by stemming or rappel anchor slung higher up on right side LDC. The webbing on the first big rappel is slung around a boulder on the right side LDC. The webbing has really worn a deep groove into the sandstone b/c an overhand knot was used to hold the rapide in place (presumably because just tying the webbing as a sling and allowing the rapide to move freely would make retrieval of the rapide for set up more difficult). With the rapide secured by an overhand knot, the webbing slides (and abrades) around the rock as each person down climbs into the rappel. Maybe tying the webbing as a sling without the overhand and allowing the rapide to move freely along the sling without causing the sling to abrade the rock would be a solution to preventing further damage? See canyon collective for a discussion thread on this.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 3, 2020

Left fork. Nice beginner canyon. All rappel anchor intact. No water anywhere. 2 adults, 2 kids. 4 hours.

1 out of 5
Date of Trip: April 28, 2020

Bridge still closed. Lots of mud in spots and some pools. We didn't do the entire thing because of the mud. There are better options in the area.