jman's Canditions

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 2, 2020

Took 6 people (including 2 kids ages 7 and 9) through. No water until 1st rap (which is normal) which was garden house strength. Water is ice cold as some snow is still melting from the storm from a few weeks ago. Booties is recommended. Wetsuits not needed. Webbing was recently replaced within the last two weeks or so. Soft and supple. No one else in the canyon. 3 hours.

3 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 12, 2020

Solo. First time through took 1hr 45mins car to car. More bushwhacking than expected. Water showed up about 100 yards after dropping in. Crystal clear and cold. No poison ivy that I could tell. Rock bollard anchor is quite stable. Brought a 100ft rope and it equalized perfectly DRT for the rappel. Neat narrows section, although short. Worth doing once, for sure. But don't look at it as a canyoneering destination, but rather a hiking destination with a rap. Big difference.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 1, 2020

Its been a few years since we did this and this year didn't dissapoint. Group of 3 took 1hr 20mins. Strong class C conditions. The two bolt stations are holding up well and there is no rope pulling issues. Bring a helmet as the water will split your head in two near the bottom. A rain-jacket is highly suggested if you don't have a wetsuit.

https://youtu.be/mkYNjdPqYvc

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: March 7, 2020

Took 3 of us 65 minutes from car to car. No snow or ice in the canyon or on top. I think the 1st rappel needs a change because the new placement is creating new rope grooves!

And the pothole before the last rap has filled in with a bunch of sand in the middle and so you don't need to bridge across it anymore.

Pretty clean route now.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 28, 2018

A group of 4 in 7hrs 55 mins from Upper Trailhead to Temple of Sinawava. Water doesn't start until about Bulloch junction. From there it was ankle to waist to chest deep until the big waterfall. That waterfall was waist deep - good thing no one jumped! After that, it was a riot. Hot, no wetsuits, and water felt luke-warm. A few swimmers until the junction. No major changes to report.

Here's a few pics:

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?78245-7-28-18-Orderville-Gulch

1 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 22, 2018

Canyon is dry. NO trickle of water to be found. No pools of water. No standing water to be found in the canyon. Dry mud everywhere. And no hornets nest at 1st rap either. Brumley Creek is flowing, however. If it's not flowing, this is a canyon to skip, unfortunately. But the higher elevation and cooler temps is a welcome treat.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: April 21, 2018

Made a second round this year; the drive to East Mesa trail is doable by a compact car (Chevy Cruze did just fine) now.

Replaced webbing on two of the bolted anchors. Mystery lake is all but gone. Went from neck deep to nearly nothing in 29 days. Everything is nearly in full bloom!

Group of 4, including a stop at Observation Point, 5 1/2 hours from car to narrows. Fast trip.

Friend left pair of Oakleys on last rappel; love to get them back if recovered! Contact me on Bogley.com please.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: March 24, 2018

Excellent trip! The road to Observation trail was muddy and contained deep ruts (8-12"). High-clearance is recommended until it's graded. Otherwise you will need to a walk an additional mile to East Mesa Trailhead.

Death gully was mostly dry. Some patches of snow but maybe 3-4" deep. Some mud on death gully, but most is avoidable.

Most anchors in good shape. Replaced two webbings lengths.

Most raps except the last 3 all had a trickle of water running down them.

Mystery Lake is chest deep and cold. We wore wetsuits and were glad we had them.

6 people (2 noobs) took 7 hours. Death gully slowed us down a bit.

Lost 2 pairs of Oakleys on this trip!! Contact me on Bogley.com if found! Read more here: http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?77938-3-24-Mystery-Canyon&p=595311#post595311

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: February 17, 2018

2 of us in 2 1/2 hrs from car to car. Bolts in good condition but the last rap is continuing to develop deep grooves. Perhaps someone could remove the bolts underneath the top bolt, and re-rig it at the top for a better pull? Pretty please. A rope groove does NOT need to be here.

Water was chest deep at the penultimate rap and the rap before. Today the wetsuits for needed...brr...

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 21, 2017

Flew through the subway with a group of 5 from car to car in 5 hrs 55 mins.

The first two pools were very chilly. So cold in fact that once you get out, your hands are throbbing and aching. But as usual, once the springs come in, it gets significantly warmer. Wetsuits are required in our opinion. We did it right when the sun should have been over the heart of the subway, but due to the time of the year, it wouldn't reach it. So, that's why wetsuits required. Nearly everyone was shaking in their wetsuit while waiting for everyone to rappel...

On the hike out, a lot of the leaves were gone so spotting the trail was easy and made for a quick exit (benefit of this time of year). And a high temp of 72 that day which was perfect for hiking.

Nothing has changed since my summer's descent. Logs were still there by keyhole falls.

No sand in any of the Subway features, except for that small spot where the quicksand is bubbling...I'll let you find it! It's maybe 2 feet deep. Fun!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 17, 2017

Group of 5 took 5 1/2 hours (1st time for all) from car to car. Route finding was fairly easy to the full-route. 4 other guiding services in the canyon (20+ people in the canyon). Rappels were fun (especially the 2nd to last). Anchors in great shape. Most raps have a few opportunties to bypass slower groups. The channel from rappel 5 was about chest deep. Rap 4 was a swimming disconnect. Penultimate rap was waist deep. Wetsuits not needed on this 100degree day. Water from the spring tasted great and was refreshing. Parking lot not too full considering how many people were there.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 9, 2017

Mystery Lake completely dry. Anchors and webbing in good shape. Most seemed to be recently replaced. No log jams from last report. Mystery Springs is about 10 feet, unless you find the underwater ledge and then it's only waist deep. The subsequent pool is waist deep, and the following pool is a mandatory swimmer for 5 feet. 6 people (w/3 noobs) was 6 1/2 hours from car to car.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 26, 2017

A group of 4 took us 50 mins from car to car. We rapped just once down. Strong Class C conditions currently with all of the snowmelt, although each continuing week will see less and less. 3/2 wetsuits required at the minimum. You will get soaked. Bring a helmet too as the water force feels like it's cracking your skull in 2 pieces.

We removed ALL of the webbing from the falls, as it is now fully bolted. One on top of the rock is the 1st pair of bolts, and the 2nd is at the start of the last tier.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: April 22, 2017

Took a group of 6 through in 8 hours (5 noobs) on a Saturday. Anchors in good condition. Every rappel except the 2nd to last one had a flow varying from garden hose strength to dripping. The "tunnel" slot section is completely filled with sand. You can walk right over it and just get your ankles wet. And the rap with the nasty rope grooves has filled in with at least 4-5ft of sand. It's at level with the water pothole. The mandatory downclimb into water is chest deep if you slide in, or if you can jump 2 feet at the bottom of the down-climb then it is only waist deep. No wetsuits needed even though there was a slight flow. About 15 mountain goats after rap 1. The only snow we saw was at the bottom of rap 1 tucked on the south side - about a 3-4 ft snow pile left.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: November 29, 2016

Rockslide in Main Fork: http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?76437-Bluejohn-Rockslide&p=581390#post581390

See link for more details. Looks to be about thigh deep after a rainstorm for a hundred+ feet.