shagdeuce's Canditions

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 22, 2018

Very low water. It took us 14 hrs fence to fence (started at 7 AM, got dark during the pull on the last rap). We were a group of 4. A more skilled group of 9 got through much quicker than us (downclimbing and stemming ability is key). The approach seemed long. Pumped water at the end of the Rip section, but there weren't many good options (most springs were dry). No need to wetsuit up until late Happy. I wore a full 4/3 and was never cold. One had a full 3 and was a bit chilly at times, but never too cold. One did it without ever putting on his wetsuit (drug a packed full 5 through the canyon) and never got cold (but he runs hot). The Grim section was demanding, intense, and relentless...but also amazing, beautiful, and incredibly diverse. I can't imagine the difficulty/terror level at full water.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 28, 2017

The first dryfall in West was about bellybutton deep. The dryfall upclimb is not too difficult for the experienced, but would be difficult/dangerous for the inexperienced. There was a pothole after that was also about waist deep and required a partner assist (lots of mud on the exit). The surprise was that, after the pothole, there was an obstacle that was difficult. It was a chockstone that required a climb up to it and over it. A great climber may be able to get it. We stuck a pot shot and then partner assisted up. I had a group of seven 12-17 year old boys with me (some very inexperienced), so we had to get creative to get everyone up. We ended up creating a deadman and then put both a fixed and top belay rope down. Fun canyon. The hike out (2.5 miles?) wasn't bad for the experienced, but long for the inexperienced.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 13, 2013

The pool at the end of the 1st 120 ft rap was a swimmer for our group (others reportedly managed to get around it without taking a complete dip). It started pouring hard/lightning on this rap. By the time we pulled in the narrows, the waterfall was flowing a lot harder and people were hurriedly trying to make their way back to the Temple. Were it not for the inclement weather & temperature drop, we wouldn't have broken out the wetsuits (we did wear sweaters off and on). With the weather, we were glad to have the suits (2/2 long sleeve shortie for me, 3/4 full for the rest), but wouldn't have been in trouble in any case. The canyon looked great, however. All webbing looked good & not excessive.

I should also mention that the road back into the Ranch to retrieve the car was dicey after the rain...thick, slippery mud. One truck got stuck & abandoned for the night on the hill on Beaver road, blocking it from passing. We found a road around.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 12, 2013

Descended Orderville via Walker with a group of 4. The mud in Orderville wasn't a problem (as it was last time I went through). I had a 2/2 long sleeve shortie for the waterpark, which was fine to me. Others had a 3/4 full, which they were glad to have. The canyon looked great.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 19, 2012

I would recommend an early start to miss the sun on the hike up. Very little water. Can be done with only the 1st rappeller taking a couple ankle deep dips in the water if you are creative. Rap 7 is the only chance of getting significantly wet. There is a small ledge right were the watercourse hits the pool (ankle deep) and another on the opposite wall. They can be used to remain relatively dry, but they are slippery, so a slip and a chest-high dip in rank water could easily happen (it did to one in our group). We stuck our ropes on the last rap. Make sure the last rappeller checks that the ropes are twist-free before descending.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 8, 2011

Great conditions. It was full of water. I had a 2mm spring suit with long sleeves. Others had long sleeve 3/4 wetsuits. All of us were a bit cold at times (there was a cold breeze and cloud cover), but generally okay. I believe the high was around 70. All of the anchors looked good.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 27, 2011

Approached via the watercourse. Left the trailhead at 7:30 AM. Everyone was on the ground at the Orderville junction at noon (4.5 hours). 6 people (3 experienced and our wives). We didn't see anyone in the canyon. On the first rap, we used the shorter rap on the rim right. Still a lot of shale falling down during the rap, but a much better pull. I'll continue to use it in the future.

The canyon looked great. The anchors looked great. No garbage. It had rained the night before, so the canyon looked untouched. Still dripping on the first two raps. I was awed again by the last series of raps.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 27, 2011

Beautiful canyon. I rated it as a four because there was a ton of mud caking the canyon until the water started flowing a little stronger. It was a little annoying and stinky. Admittedly, it was my first time through, so I'm not sure if this is typical. Of course, the canyon was well worth this minor issue. The obstacles were fun. We had our wives with us and we had to be pretty creative to get them over some of the obstacles. I definitely wouldn't do this canyon without ropes/gear. We did the canyon combined with Birch. It took us just over 6 hours to get from Birch to the Shuttle (without any significant breaks). We had 6 people (3 experienced and our wives).

3 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 26, 2011

Did the Upper Left Fork combined with Das Boot. There wasn't much of a flow until close the end of Das Boot. I was in a 2 mm wetsuit (short legs, long arms) and was chilly, but it wasn't too bad. There aren't many stretches in Das Boot where you aren't in some level of water. There were fewer raps than I anticipated, but I didn't count them so I can't give an exact report there. Saw the elk bones.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 26, 2011

Came in from Das Boot. The Subway was in great condition. The flow was enough to keep the water looking prestine. On the first boulder obstacle, there was a big group navigating the hole downclimb on canyon right, so we stemmed down on the canyon left and dropped ~5 feet into the pool. The water was a little over waist deep to give an idea of the water levels. As mentioned in jman's report, the boulder swim has a log jammed in it that covers the boulder. Plan on a lot of traffic. We probably saw 45+ people in there. There have been a few mud slides on the 2+ mile exit, but all of them are pretty well travelled by now.