Echo

Last Candition: June 27, 2011

4.5

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 21, 2018

According to the woman at the wilderness desk, the July 11 storm filled the infamous pothole in with sand so that it is a simple step out. This is what we found. I imagine the sand will be there for some time... until the right storm removes it. The short raps are so awkward to get on because they are often undercut and the anchors don't catch until you are below foot level. Nice canyon with interesting features! It was a great afternoon out. Hot approach even in September. 4/3 wet suits were great but just barely toward the end when we started to chill a bit.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 26, 2018

Full of water. Keeper full and easy to get out alone. Not stinky. Beautiful.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 5, 2018

Posting for a friend: With the recent rains, the pothole at Rap 3 is full and you can belly flop your way out. Be careful if it starts drying out. The jammed log with handline that used to assist with the pothole escape has been washed away. You'd have to do a pack toss (4-5 feet and slightly around a bend) from a swimming stance to get out. Lots of log soup; little smelly but not too bad.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 22, 2018

Very dry. Low water level made for a semi difficult pothole escape, after the 3rd rappel. Currently there is webbing with hand/foot loops to assist the escape. The webbing is anchored by a choked stone. If that stone shifts/moves that webbing will be gone. Be prepared for a strong partner assist or bring a single potshot to throw over the next chock stone. 4/3 wetsuits were ok, some people got chilled by the end.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 15, 2018

Only one pothole in the middle was difficult, the others didn't require assists. Someone had chocked a webbing handline from a knot on a wedged boulder. Lip is 4' above water, can't touch the bottom. Would be hard to escape without the handline, and one guy struggled anyway. If the webbing is gone you MAYBE could bring some webbing, knot the end, and toss it until it wedged. You would have to throw a pack far and high to make the next pool or it would roll back in. We got chilled in 3/2 full and 5 farmer John. The 4/3 wetsuit guy was okay. Beautiful and smelly.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 2, 2017

4 or 5 swimmers. Semi-keeper pothole was a little hard to climb out of, couldn't touch the bottom of the pool. There were a couple of pools with real nasty water in them. Wore a 3/2 wetsuit and was pretty cold, but not miserable.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 22, 2017

Very low water despite it flashing on Monday (trees/branches still green; freshly claimed animals, hardly disturbed debris). No swimming except at Rap 3 which is a keeper right now; last step was one swim stroke, there is a handline with loops; 3 ft climb I'd say right now. With two people could have made it out with a pack toss. Climb down to get to Rap 3 is dry so a little tricky; just used friction and partner spot. All bolts in good condition; just had to untwist webbing for Rap 1.

2 people trailhead to trailhead 4 hours.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 4, 2017

Seemed like low water, with only two swims and some wading. We wore 3mm wetsuits and neo gloves/socks and were fine.

Rap 1 was off a small boulder at feet height and was 25 ft down a dirty chute.

Rap 2 was into a pool with a 20 ft swim to the other side, easy exit.

Rap 3 was into a dry pool. Right before Rap 4 there's a dry bathtub keeper whose lip was 6' from the bottom. Our tallest person mantled up and rigged a rope off the anchor for Rap 4 and the rest of us handlined up (relatively easy).

Rap 4 was into the keeper. It's definitely in keeper mode - a swimmer at the exit with the lip 2 feet above water. We had fun trying to pull ourselves up and out. Someone had left a handline down from a wedged log. We added a couple of prusiks and used those to climb out.

Rap 5 was easy into a chest-deep pool.

After that, lots of wading and sliding and down climbing out to where the canyon meets the trail.

All anchors and webbing in good condition.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 17, 2016

Tip top full of water. Good Canyon, 3.5 hours shuttle to shittle.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 6, 2016

A week of rains filled up the watery section to the brim. Not as cold as commonly reported, at least in early August with fresh rains. Still, the full wetsuits were nice. A couple of awkward rappel starts on the first couple of raps above the watery section. Some newbie teens needed helping hands from above. One deadman anchor (maybe the 2nd or 3rd rap) OK due to helpful geometry (but be careful not to weight it rapidly), or could anchor from upcanyon another 40 feet. I see how the keeper could be a bit difficult in lower water. Fun canyon!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 9, 2016

A lot of fun. Water is smelling pretty ripe at this point. Keeper pot is pretty legit right now. I couldn't touch the bottom so it was a swimming exit, with the lip of the pot about 3 feet above water line. Took us about 5 mins to get us both out. Strongly suggest a pack toss or bring extra webbing to wrap around a rock and throw in order to climb out - partner assist not a super attractive option for us as it was pretty cold and we would have been going deep under water.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 4, 2016

The keeper is cold, deep and serious. We had two tall climbers that took about 3 minutes to get out, no pack toss, just partner assist.

Less athletic teams could have serious problems there, beware.

We all thought it was great fun, so I'll give it a 5.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 6, 2016

Very cold. 3.2 wetsuits did not cut it. The fingers went numb first. There is no sun for a long stretch so be prepared. The semi-keeper water level required us to use a pack toss, more of a pack jam in the crack got us out of it. We made the mistake of having all in the water while we worked on the exit and that made it very cold.

The log jams are fun, nothing not too difficult. The rap off the log is a sketchy start but doable.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 23, 2015

Epic canyon with a few potential challenges (the "quicksand" mud that others referenced is firmed up now):

The "log soup" toward the end is really thick. Be prepared to power through it slowly.

Be aware of the mild semi-keeper holes (2). As you turn right from a walkable pool you'll drop into a bathtub sized pool. My friend had to use a pack-assist to get out. I was fine. This pool waterfalls into a larger semi-keeper pool. You'll see a large v-crack on the far side but there isn't much to step on or grip. My friend had to do a combo of a pack assist as well as lodging his fists into the v-crack, kind of like climbers do when crack-climbing. It worked fine. Just be ready to spend a few minutes in the water trying to figure this spot out if need be.

There's a major logjam toward the end. Be prepared to rappel off of the major log on the right side.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 24, 2015

Pretty thick log soup in 2 sections (one towards the beginning of Middle Echo and the other towards the end).

There definitely is a very unstable log jamb towards the end of the route. We avoided the jamb almost entirely by stemming the down canyon side of the jamb and that made us much more comfortable.

I dropped a rope to the bottom of the semi keeper pool just below the pothole's exit point. I was able to retrieve it after diving down. I would estimate the bottom of the pothole is 12+ feet below the exit point. There are probably some water levels that would make escape fairly difficult. In current condition (water down about 2 feet or less from exit), it is possible to exit on your own or easily defeated by partner assist.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 19, 2015

Cold water as usual. With recent flashing there is a new log jam shortly after the last rappel. The jam is slightly unstable, and we ended up rappelling off the most secure log about 15ft. There are several long sections of log soup that are a bit tricky. very full with lots of swimming.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 6, 2015

Cold water--don't forget those wet suits. There was no flow, and the pools were slightly stagnant, but other than that it was great and fun.

I thought the approach was more confusing than it needed to be--basically, after the trail forks, walk through some rolling terrain with several short up and downhill sections(and stacks of cairns) for a half-mile or so until the trail heads downhill to cross a shallow, sandy wash. To your left is rugged terrain, to your right is the entrance to Echo. It's a few hundred feet down that wash, at most. You can skip any raps to get into the canyon by staying on the left side of the drainage.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 24, 2015

Excellent canyon! Long hike up but well worth it. When you see the sign for the east Mesa trail & have the option to either continue climbing or to take a faint trail down to the right, go right. Follow that for a bit. We dropped in a lil sooner than the beta recommends; just before rap 1. The anchors are in good shape. Bring wetsuits. You'll be glad you have them. Once the slot canyon opens up & dumps you back on the trail DO NOT rappel into the next slotted section. This is lower Echo & you'll get cliffed-out & likely stuck a couple hundred feet above weeping rock. All in all this was a really fun slot!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 3, 2015

Tons of water!! We came from the top, built an anchor on a log jam on the downclimb mentioned below. If I would have had more webbing I would have equalized a few anchors. Some pretty sketchy anchor in there.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 15, 2014

Totally full of water. As mentioned in the report before mine, we were spilling water out of potholes as we were hopping in them. Great time, wetsuits a must. Anchor missing at one of the upper drops, though the pothole was full enough to make it low consequence if you sequence people down and have the last person downclimb/jump.