Echo

Last Candition: June 22, 2018

5.0

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 22, 2018

Very dry. Low water level made for a semi difficult pothole escape, after the 3rd rappel. Currently there is webbing with hand/foot loops to assist the escape. The webbing is anchored by a choked stone. If that stone shifts/moves that webbing will be gone. Be prepared for a strong partner assist or bring a single potshot to throw over the next chock stone. 4/3 wetsuits were ok, some people got chilled by the end.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 15, 2018

Only one pothole in the middle was difficult, the others didn't require assists. Someone had chocked a webbing handline from a knot on a wedged boulder. Lip is 4' above water, can't touch the bottom. Would be hard to escape without the handline, and one guy struggled anyway. If the webbing is gone you MAYBE could bring some webbing, knot the end, and toss it until it wedged. You would have to throw a pack far and high to make the next pool or it would roll back in. We got chilled in 3/2 full and 5 farmer John. The 4/3 wetsuit guy was okay. Beautiful and smelly.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 2, 2017

4 or 5 swimmers. Semi-keeper pothole was a little hard to climb out of, couldn't touch the bottom of the pool. There were a couple of pools with real nasty water in them. Wore a 3/2 wetsuit and was pretty cold, but not miserable.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 22, 2017

Very low water despite it flashing on Monday (trees/branches still green; freshly claimed animals, hardly disturbed debris). No swimming except at Rap 3 which is a keeper right now; last step was one swim stroke, there is a handline with loops; 3 ft climb I'd say right now. With two people could have made it out with a pack toss. Climb down to get to Rap 3 is dry so a little tricky; just used friction and partner spot. All bolts in good condition; just had to untwist webbing for Rap 1.

2 people trailhead to trailhead 4 hours.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 4, 2017

Seemed like low water, with only two swims and some wading. We wore 3mm wetsuits and neo gloves/socks and were fine.

Rap 1 was off a small boulder at feet height and was 25 ft down a dirty chute.

Rap 2 was into a pool with a 20 ft swim to the other side, easy exit.

Rap 3 was into a dry pool. Right before Rap 4 there's a dry bathtub keeper whose lip was 6' from the bottom. Our tallest person mantled up and rigged a rope off the anchor for Rap 4 and the rest of us handlined up (relatively easy).

Rap 4 was into the keeper. It's definitely in keeper mode - a swimmer at the exit with the lip 2 feet above water. We had fun trying to pull ourselves up and out. Someone had left a handline down from a wedged log. We added a couple of prusiks and used those to climb out.

Rap 5 was easy into a chest-deep pool.

After that, lots of wading and sliding and down climbing out to where the canyon meets the trail.

All anchors and webbing in good condition.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 17, 2016

Tip top full of water. Good Canyon, 3.5 hours shuttle to shittle.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 6, 2016

A week of rains filled up the watery section to the brim. Not as cold as commonly reported, at least in early August with fresh rains. Still, the full wetsuits were nice. A couple of awkward rappel starts on the first couple of raps above the watery section. Some newbie teens needed helping hands from above. One deadman anchor (maybe the 2nd or 3rd rap) OK due to helpful geometry (but be careful not to weight it rapidly), or could anchor from upcanyon another 40 feet. I see how the keeper could be a bit difficult in lower water. Fun canyon!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 9, 2016

A lot of fun. Water is smelling pretty ripe at this point. Keeper pot is pretty legit right now. I couldn't touch the bottom so it was a swimming exit, with the lip of the pot about 3 feet above water line. Took us about 5 mins to get us both out. Strongly suggest a pack toss or bring extra webbing to wrap around a rock and throw in order to climb out - partner assist not a super attractive option for us as it was pretty cold and we would have been going deep under water.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 4, 2016

The keeper is cold, deep and serious. We had two tall climbers that took about 3 minutes to get out, no pack toss, just partner assist.

Less athletic teams could have serious problems there, beware.

We all thought it was great fun, so I'll give it a 5.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 6, 2016

Very cold. 3.2 wetsuits did not cut it. The fingers went numb first. There is no sun for a long stretch so be prepared. The semi-keeper water level required us to use a pack toss, more of a pack jam in the crack got us out of it. We made the mistake of having all in the water while we worked on the exit and that made it very cold.

The log jams are fun, nothing not too difficult. The rap off the log is a sketchy start but doable.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 23, 2015

Epic canyon with a few potential challenges (the "quicksand" mud that others referenced is firmed up now):

The "log soup" toward the end is really thick. Be prepared to power through it slowly.

Be aware of the mild semi-keeper holes (2). As you turn right from a walkable pool you'll drop into a bathtub sized pool. My friend had to use a pack-assist to get out. I was fine. This pool waterfalls into a larger semi-keeper pool. You'll see a large v-crack on the far side but there isn't much to step on or grip. My friend had to do a combo of a pack assist as well as lodging his fists into the v-crack, kind of like climbers do when crack-climbing. It worked fine. Just be ready to spend a few minutes in the water trying to figure this spot out if need be.

There's a major logjam toward the end. Be prepared to rappel off of the major log on the right side.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 24, 2015

Pretty thick log soup in 2 sections (one towards the beginning of Middle Echo and the other towards the end).

There definitely is a very unstable log jamb towards the end of the route. We avoided the jamb almost entirely by stemming the down canyon side of the jamb and that made us much more comfortable.

I dropped a rope to the bottom of the semi keeper pool just below the pothole's exit point. I was able to retrieve it after diving down. I would estimate the bottom of the pothole is 12+ feet below the exit point. There are probably some water levels that would make escape fairly difficult. In current condition (water down about 2 feet or less from exit), it is possible to exit on your own or easily defeated by partner assist.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 19, 2015

Cold water as usual. With recent flashing there is a new log jam shortly after the last rappel. The jam is slightly unstable, and we ended up rappelling off the most secure log about 15ft. There are several long sections of log soup that are a bit tricky. very full with lots of swimming.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 6, 2015

Cold water--don't forget those wet suits. There was no flow, and the pools were slightly stagnant, but other than that it was great and fun.

I thought the approach was more confusing than it needed to be--basically, after the trail forks, walk through some rolling terrain with several short up and downhill sections(and stacks of cairns) for a half-mile or so until the trail heads downhill to cross a shallow, sandy wash. To your left is rugged terrain, to your right is the entrance to Echo. It's a few hundred feet down that wash, at most. You can skip any raps to get into the canyon by staying on the left side of the drainage.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 24, 2015

Excellent canyon! Long hike up but well worth it. When you see the sign for the east Mesa trail & have the option to either continue climbing or to take a faint trail down to the right, go right. Follow that for a bit. We dropped in a lil sooner than the beta recommends; just before rap 1. The anchors are in good shape. Bring wetsuits. You'll be glad you have them. Once the slot canyon opens up & dumps you back on the trail DO NOT rappel into the next slotted section. This is lower Echo & you'll get cliffed-out & likely stuck a couple hundred feet above weeping rock. All in all this was a really fun slot!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 3, 2015

Tons of water!! We came from the top, built an anchor on a log jam on the downclimb mentioned below. If I would have had more webbing I would have equalized a few anchors. Some pretty sketchy anchor in there.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 15, 2014

Totally full of water. As mentioned in the report before mine, we were spilling water out of potholes as we were hopping in them. Great time, wetsuits a must. Anchor missing at one of the upper drops, though the pothole was full enough to make it low consequence if you sequence people down and have the last person downclimb/jump.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 13, 2014

Middle Echo was full and fun. 3 had drysuits and one had lots of neoprene and we were all OK. Anchor is still missing at one early 12-15' drop in the uppermost section and everyone in our group failed to successfully downclimb this without falling, including last man, though it did not result in an injury. If you are going to drop in at the upper entrance, be prepared for this. If I were to do it again, I would just head in at the lower entrance and skip the uppermost part all together. The drop mentioned is the most scenic part of this uppermost portion and the rest of the upper part was mostly short awkward rappels. True middle echo is the best part in my opinion.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 3, 2014

Completely full of fresh(ish) water. We spilled water out of one pothole and into the next all afternoon. Good, cold fun!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 1, 2013

Agreeing with the party a day before. We did the Middle Echo and could not find an anchor on the first big drop and looked pretty hard. I was able to dig out a chockstone two downclimbs upstream and throw webbing around it since we had a 60m rop with us to make a handline into the PH. We both were comfy with 3/2 full wetsuits for the many swims. Its a spectacular canyon with many sculpted sections.