Pine Creek

Last Candition: May 17, 2011


5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 17, 2017

Cruiser, never deeper than chest deep, anchors in good shape. 4/3 mm wetsuits were more than enough. Only ones there this morning, took us 2.5 hours end to end.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 7, 2017

Canyon Full of water. 1st rap was chest deep and remained the same throughout canyon. Water was cold. There still is a very slight stench but not over powering in upper canyon. The sun is very low in the sky, even at 1300 no direct sun at the last 2 raps. Had to wait an hour due to slow and large groups. Got a little chilly. There are 2 rap stations at the last rap.

2 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 2, 2017

There is at least one large dead animal at the top of the canyon. The smell is awful and does not dissipate for the first half of the slot.

I recommend waiting for Mother Nature to flush the canyon clean before doing this route.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 9, 2017

Canyon overall... bone dry; had 3/2 wetsuit and could have gone without one (coming from a person who gets cold) considering the 100+ temps. One swim in Cathedral Room, two wades waste deep; rest under knee. All anchors and webbing in good condition, did not need to replace any. 3 hours with 2 experienced people.

2 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 24, 2017

Anchors were fine. Water was very low, only one short swim in the Cathedral and a few waist to chest deep wades. Those that had 3/2 wetsuits (full and Farmer John) were happy with them, though I didn't take one and was glad I didn't. It was a very hot day at about 108F.

Took us a casual 5 hrs with group of 4.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 17, 2017

Water level was normal compared to the other times I've done this canyon, a couple of swims and a lot of wading. The water was cold, but a 3/2 should be fine if you're not moving too slowly. Anchors all in good condition.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 24, 2017

A week since last rain, so water cold, measured at 38 degrees post Cathedral.

Webbing good at all anchor spots.

Floating disconnect after first sequence.

Floating disconnect in Cathedral.

Only swim is after Cathedral.

Third rap sequence (from high glued bolt, where canyon opens up) unnecessary; can be downclimbed.

3 in group, one n00b, still 2.75hr car to car.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 18, 2017

A day after substantial rains, it was quite full and cold. We wore 3 mm or 4/3 mm wetsuits and were a bit cool but fine on a 60-degree day. Our group of four moved very quickly; 3.25 hours from car to car.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 5, 2017

rangers said it was full, but i would guess it was closer to 2/3 full. we were all in 3mm and it was chilly but fine. I would suggest wearing wetsuit gloves. webbing was new throughout the canyon.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 1, 2016

Full and clean due to last weeks rain. A few longer swims currently (20ft at cathedral, 100ft after cathedral, 200ft after, 50 before the last two raps). There is a nice big log in the middle of the canyon after the long swim in the cathedral. It's easy to go beneath it on the left side. Anchors in great conditions. 3hrs for a group of 6 with 3 noobs.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 14, 2016

My first time in Pine Creek! Rains last week have filled the canyon and freshened it up a bit. The Cathedral pool was high with a swimming disconnect. Lots of pleasant swimming through the dark corridors, with shimmering light reflecting off the water onto the walls. A couple smelly pools toward the end where the canyon opens up. I wore a 4/3 and was perfectly comfortable, others in a 3/2 were a bit cold. Knee-high water below the final overhanging rappel. The hike out (more of a continuous Class II-III downclimb) was beautiful in the late afternoon but longer and more exhausting than I imagined, involving extensive routefinding through seemingly endless boulder gardens. Wish I had kept my wetsuit on just for scrape protection. All in all a gorgeous canyon that I will definitely come back to!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 25, 2016

4 out of 5 because the water is kinda skanky. Some debris in the water at the cathedral. Water is low, almost no swimming. Fun slot.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 6, 2016

Rains the previous weekend filled it up. A few swimmers, and floating disconnect at the Cathedral. Excellent trip as always. Saw the Cathedral at mid-day; had only previously been through in the morning. Glorious in full light.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 30, 2016

Water level very no swimmers. Pools were waste deep. Consider a shortie. Anchors good. Still a great trip!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 25, 2016

Awesome, the whole route largely avoids the heat of you take it slow so you are in shade at the river walk part. There was a beautiful baby owl in the canyon, and a tiny snake. Tons of frogs and tadpoles in the final walk out. The boulder hopping back to the car can be a slight puzzle to route find, but very fun.

The water levels are low, I wish they were deeper, but it's still a blast.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 19, 2016

Great time! The water is low but cold. Recommend farmer john wetsuits. One guy in our party went through without a suit and was fine but you'll be happier if you wear one. Only swim was in the cathedral and only for a few feet. No swimming disconnects. Take off your suits before the final 2 raps for sure. Hike out through the boulders was hot, bring water.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: April 7, 2016

Very cold, did keyhole as a tester for water temp but Pinecreek was much, much colder. Log on edge of rap I thought was very wedged in came loose after many people that day had been under it and was lucky it didn't push me off drop. Need 5 mm wetsuits minimum or ideally drysuits. Zionoutfitters rented some in our party 3mm wetsuits and said it would be good, not even close. Don't underestimate the cold temps, could see breath in canyon and it was probably around 80 outside, water I would guess was just above freezing.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 24, 2015

Just as full (if not more) than it was a few months ago when I was here last. Lots of cold swimming to be had, but coupled with some breathtaking scenery. All 80 permits were sold the day we went through so we ran into some expected bottlenecks. NOTE: if people are backed up at the final 100-foot rappel you can climb up a slanted rock slope to the left and follow this around to some bolts about 50 feet from the primary bolts. They seemed to be in good condition though you have to reach over near the edge to retrieve them. If this doesn't bother you, I recommend using them. This canyon is a classic. If you haven't done it already I highly recommend it!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 9, 2015

Completely full of water. Most I have ever seen in there. If you like swimming and water canyons now would be the time to go

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: July 25, 2015

This is the most full I have ever seen Pinecreek with water. It made some sections easier than usual while others were more of a long, cold swim than usual. Either way it was fine. No big deal. All of the anchors appear to be in good condition. It took my friend and I 4 hours total including several elaborate setups for photography.

PS: we did this 2 days prior with 2 other friends & one of them dislocated his shoulder in the chamber. He'd asked one of the guys to lift him out of the water at a funky angle. He could've gotten out without this help. Lesson learned: don't pull people by the arms at funky angles unless absolutely necessary.