Quandary

Last Candition: May 28, 2011

4.6

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 17, 2017

Recent rains have made Quandary tippy top full. The arch in the crux keeper was right at water level. We brought our pothole escape gear but didn't need any of it. 3mm wetsuits on this 68° day kept us plenty warm. Anchors all in good shape. 13.5 hours car-to-car from the main road, including 2 hours figuring out the best way up the crux in Ramp. Lots of goopy, slippery mud sticking to our shoes made both the 3rd/4th class section and the ~5.5 traverse up the exit more exciting. Super fun day!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: August 19, 2017

Was my first time but water levels appeared to be high, all but a couple of potholes were either a pack toss or could be climbed out. Group of 6 took 11 hours taking the Muddy Creek Exit. If I were to do it again I would definelty try the Ramp exit. We all brought Wetsuits but didn't use them. Was in the Mid 80's, but we all did fine.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 30, 2017

No wet suits needed on this 94 degree day. Direct route was in full keeper mode, with the big keeper in full swim with 10ft lip. Anchors were in good condition, several unnecessary. Fiddlesticked several to mitigate rope grooving. Lots of fun potshot, partner, and pack toss exits. Up ramp, there is a somewhat sketchy hand line in place underneath the large chock stone, although seemed slightly easier than the 5.5 unprotected move up the ramp. Hike to ramp was hot but manageable.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 24, 2016

Quandary is now very wet & full. Road to airstrip was okay with a few rough spots as you get near the strip. Saw passenger cars make it down there. Used a hook for one rap into the/a? keeper because no other way to anchor unless you found something way back upstream. 11 hours for group of 6 going back up ramp. Full wetsuits required on this 60+ degree day.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 12, 2016

Potholes about half full. Anchors in good shape. Bugs were tolerable. Roads in good shape. Wetsuit not required on this 90 degree day.

Down Quandary up Ramp in 9 hours. Fun!

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 28, 2016

A bunch of water, but some keepers in the direct section. We used pack tosses to get out. As advertised, a good first serious canyon to practice pothole escape. 10 hours total for 3 people doing the canyon and pothole escapes for the first time. Up ramp, and the ramp is quite intimidating when you're at the end of two long days of canyoneering and your feet are killing you. We used wetsuits on an 80-degree day and were happy to have them.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 20, 2016

The direct route we found the pots in keeper mode, potshots and partner assist were the order of the day. Had high winds so full suit w vest made things very comfortable. Great canyon 8 hrs for the 3 of us with Muddy exit.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 20, 2015

Still holding a lot of water. Only two pots required a partner assist and pot shot. A fun splash fest. Returned via Ramp Canyon, which is beautiful! The hike over to Ramp was HOT!

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 22, 2015

Recent rains have filled the cups making getting out pretty easy. 3/4 wetsuits for the direct section lots of fun, but little technical difficulty to get out.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 9, 2015

Mostly Dry, except for the DIRECT section of the canyon. Our party of 6 ascended the canyon from the bottom, but couldn't resist descending the DIRECT section along he way which had a few deep and wet keeper potholes (a few potshot and many partner-assists got us out). Glad we had the wetsuit for the DIRECT route, but a party we caught up with didn't wear wetsuit and seemed fine.

No wetsuit needed if using the BYPASS option.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 2, 2015

Very dry. The first keeper held water to my chest. Two pot shots got me out. The position for throwing shots were solid. All the anchors were in good condition. I've done it full and empty. Both were great.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: April 3, 2015

Quandry Direct. Very little water. Other than the keeper, nobody gets wet until the exit. Water at exit is chest high.

Exited up Ramp Canyon. New rope in place at enormous choke stone/20 foot climb. Thank you to whomever put the rope in place.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 20, 2014

This was our first time and found we it very enjoyable. There were a lot of pools in the upper canyon before the direct route started. Some potholes were full. Others had enough water to barely touch bottom and required either a pack toss or partner assist. It rained heavily the day after so it will likely stay full for a week or two.

Anchors were ok but bring a lot of webbing as a few were really long. One rap had a dead man buried in mud that was sturdy at the time but could be susceptible to washout. There did not seem to be a lot of other anchor building options if this was gone...

Water temp was very comfortable in a full 4/3. Two in our group had 2/1 shorties and were mildly chilled at points but no real shivers.

Spotted cars near Hidden Splendor and the dead car; party of 5 took ~10 h to complete at a moderate pace. Direct route was great - not sure the indirect route would be worth it. Muddy Creek is very nice.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 12, 2014

Great fun canyon. We wore wetsuits, which were nice but I think if you were moving fast out of the keeper holes, you might be ok without. We had a lot of cloud cover and some wind, so it wasn't all that warm out. But the water did not seem super cold. We escaped the first keeper with a Talon hook. It is still deep, couldn't touch bottom, and about 5 ft up to the lip. Got out of the other holes with pack tosses. They had water in them but were not too deep (could touch bottom), and just a few feet to the lip.

We did the Ramp exit, which was awesome and beautiful. That 5.6 move definitely felt exposed, especially at the end of the day when we were tired.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 3, 2014

Great conditions. Big keep was about four feet below lip. All potholes had water, but nothing else was hard to get out of. No wetsuits needed.

3 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 22, 2014

All potholes are completely full. We were hoping for a challenge to get out of potholes. Instead, we just jumped in and out of all of them. If looking for pothole fun right now, go next door to Knotted Rope. Better views and more fun time in potholes.

4 out of 5
Date of Trip: May 2, 2014

Canyon in dry condition; most potholes were dry. We only got wet in two or three places and could touch ground in up to chest deep water each time. The upper keeper had chest deep, lower was dry. We took a bit of a detour during the exit hike to the Hidden Splendor airstrip. We first hit muddy creek farther SE than intended and there is a tributary joining the muddy between the spot where we hit and the intended location. We followed the tributary upstream for a bit before realizing the mistake. Our group of 3 took over 12 hours to complete - without the added time for the navigation error.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: October 5, 2013

All roads to Hidden Splendor are fine for any car. Water levels in Quandary are high but not completely full. We were able to jump in the upper keeper, swim, and get out. The lower keeper required a potshot toss to get people out from a swimming position.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: September 16, 2013

Road was in ok shape. A passenger car would have difficulty but a stock SUV = no problems, if dry conditions. Q-Direct and up Knotted Rope. Full splasher. The 6x6 lumber at the second rap is no longer in ladder mode so it is a difficult up climb. The second rap in direct had the piton removed last fall making for problem solving. None of the pothole were in keeper mode. Very fun. 11 hours 58 minutes car to car. 2 people. wore 3mm wetsuits and needed them.

5 out of 5
Date of Trip: June 9, 2013

Amazing time! Plenty of water, no wetsuits needed big keeper was about five feet below lip Once into the pothole section, no rappelling was needed, just slide in and clim out. Awesome!